A week in Hungary in  August 2019. Stayed at Kondor Tanya near Kecskemét, with guides Gabor Orban and Andrea. Visit to the Bükk National Park.

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Ten days in Romania in August 2022. Time spent near Zarnesti in Transylvania; in the Danube delta and in the surrounding region of Dobruja. Excellently guided by Florin Palade with knowledgeable support from Richard Bashford.